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. given the state of the economy, given how most people felt whether the country was on the right track, it should have been a referendum on barack obama's performance. but his campaign was determined to make it a choice between him and mitt romney. and what was really remarkable is by time election day rolled around, the election had almost become a referendum on mitt romney. gwen: yeah, funny how they turned that around. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's expectations is what the obama campaign said they were going to do, was that they were going to turn out an electorate in 2012 that looked very much like the electorate in 2008, that they were going to get huge numbers of african americans and young people. that they were going to mobilize the hispanic vote. a lot of republicans couldn't believe these polling numbe
of it was another envelope that said to 44 from 43. and then the next morning here is a picture of barack obama reading that actual note. the procession to the capitol is always a big deal. here's a picture from exactly 100 years ago. an open carriage, and that is william howard taft on the right and the new president woodrow wilson on the left. in 1933 we have a situation with franklin d. roosevelt and herbert hoover. the two of them didn't get along so well. there wasn't a lot of conversation during the right to the capitol. in many pictures the were taken that day, roosevelt can be seen leading to the crowd or smiling to the crowd or turning toward hoover and trying to have a conversation. every picture you will see hoover is just looking ahead ignoring him. there's been other times also where the president, the newly and the old, didn't get along so well and that mentioned in my book can't we all get along. sometimes the weather is a big issue. here's 1909 that is william howard taft driving together with teddy roosevelt. we can't see them, but they are in the carriage. and here is the rout
president obama to do the right thing. the united states must renounce its witch hunt against wikileaks. >> a prominent human rights activist in bahrain has been sentenced to three years in prison for taking part in protests against the u.s.-backed regime. the president of the human center for -- bahrain center for human rights has been detained after making comments and making appearances. >> we are obstinate about the nine states. are upset about the united states trying to hide their crimes. >> we turn to breaking news in russia where three members of a feminist, a group have been found guilty of who will listen for staging a peaceful protest against vladimir putin in son of an orthodox church. -- inside of an orthodox church. >> when i put on my mask, i feel like i can do everything. of course, i and the same person, but this is another part of me, which has more courage, which has a strong pillar of what she is doing is right. she has enough power to change something. >> republicans are mounting increasing pressure on desert covers member taught taken to end his speed to unseat gle
this party? >> clearly, the tea party is running is this. we had a nation that voted for obama's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> that's a good idea. we should raise taxes on the 2% wealthiest people in america. but there's this group of people on the far right that will vote them out of office. they will put up somebody farther right than the people we have in washington and get them out of office. so they're all afraid to vote for a modest tax increase of people who can totally afford it. and that small group of people is dominating this discussion to the detriment of the entire nation. >> john mcccain said this. interesting it has interestingly become clear that the party is against everything and for nothing. nothing on taxes to you. nothing on gun control. nothing on climate change. nothing only gay marriage. nothing on immigration reform on incremental peace approach which will result in nothing. it's a very odd situation when the losing party is the party refusing to negotiate. it may be how you disrupt, but it is now how you govern or how you ever hope to regain a majori
obama only new jeremiah right through sitting in a pew in his church and listening to his sermons. in fact barack obama and jeremiah right had a one on one relationship in which they met for hundreds of times in the reverend wright's -- at every step of obama's career he went to the reverend wright for advice, counsel, political direction. this was a relationship that was closer than any relationship in his life with the possible exception of his relationship with his own wife, michele obama. >> host: does he have any contact with the president? >> guest: no. there is no contract. after obama won the presidency the reverend wright told me that he sent him a note congratulating him on achieving his ambition as he put it and that he didn't expect the note to get him directly so he gave it to a neighbor of obama's to the reverend wright knew to hand delivered. doesn't know to this day whether it was never delivered. >> host: who is steve rogers who you interview here? >> guest: steve rogers from chicago is a professor at the kellogg school of management at northwestern university. >>
are saying about the party politics -- the partisan politics. maybe obama sabina example right now and make a little compromise. -- maybe obama should lead by example right now and have compromised. what about a 10% flat tax? when not make everybody happy and flat tax everything? host: back to the telephones. caller: yes, they do not talk about the things -- you talk about taxes. what about taxing us on our wages? the supreme court voted against that. they do that -- in know, the poor people are getting poorer. the middle class is cut out. are either rich or you are poor. there is no middle class anymore. host: and that the wall street journal, their front page -- back to the telethons, panama city on the line for republicans. go ahead. caller: yes, good morning. i just wanted to say, we should be able to vote to congress out on no-confidence. we should have been no confidence bill to get them all out. >host: do you think that would work? caller: it would be better than what we have now. look at what it costs us per day. we are in a gridlock. it is causing tax payers millions of dollars. le
is on right now. >> we can now definitively say that president barack obama will be re-elected, mitt romney will come up a loser in this race. >> jon: the billing media story of the year, the presidential election. that was how it ended. barack obama beating mitt romney and an end to a bitter season that started early with the g.o.p. primaries and events like this. >> we saw some of this black church in south carolina where a woman asked you why you referred a president obama as the food stamp president. it sounds as if you are suitcase to go belittle people. >> first of all, juan, the fact is that more people have been put on food stamps by barack obama than any president in american history. [ cheers and applause ] >> i know among the political kli correct and i'm supposed to you use facts that are uncomfortable. [ laughter ] >> so that was just part of a long and memorable primary season. juan, is that your highlight of the year. [ laughter ] >> my highlight? it is telling again for newt gingrich. he in a subsequent debate when we was asked about extramarital life and enough about these
and requests what a lot of liberal democrats are feeling right now. what jonathan wrote why is obama caving on tacks? the discouraging thing about the fiscal cliff negotiations is not that they have gone into the eleventh hour. it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold is 250,000 to 400,000 are these people that are going to vote on it. nobody else really cares. all they really care is that you get a deal. these people are sitting at ground zero. these snores, these liberals. i'm a liberal. i don't care what the thereby hold is. i don't give a damn if it's a million. i just want them to get a deal or go over the cliff, but somebody just make up your min
the donald trump award. all right, let's start with the most valuable player of 2012, alex wagner. >> in my book, it is david, you saw the beginnings, with dean, and obama. >> krystal? the most valuable player? >> probably to waiter who placed the camera at the mitt romney fundraiser and captured the 47% comments, which i think showed a lot of people their concerns about mitt romney and the fact he really was not there for all of america. that he didn't understand the problems that average americans were facing. >> let's listen to that little moment of video history. the 47%. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president, there are 47% of people who are with him. who believe that they are victims. who believe that the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. and so my job is not to worry about these people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility. >> a very valuable comment. >> i am going to go with bill clinton. >> one speech? >> it was 20 years in t
: yes, that's right. she had two children by barack obama senior. she stayed the whole time. she is still very much a part of nairobi in the community and runs a kindergarten there and has done so for several years. >> host: in 1964 to 1973, they were married. how long had she known him before she quit school? >> guest: she didn't quit, like, but she was teaching at that point. it was one of those very quick things, a couple of months, but she didn't know. and she said the reason he left cambridge is because he was kicked out. the harvard people have had enough of him with the drinking and the women. so they have been following very closely. i want to go back to one little thing. just because this is so troubling to me in any historian. there are documents that show barack obama senior in honolulu. there's no way he could have gone anywhere else and had that baby. he was in honolulu. anyway, so he was kicked out of harvard and went back to nairobi. so he went back. he called himself doctor from then on. he never got his phd. but she found him a few months later. found him in nair
as the dynamic that's going on right now? >> well, let's put it like this. after the election, and barack obama won re-election pretty handily, as it turned out, after the republicans threw everything they had at him, after mcconnell said his top priority, as barney frank mentioned a few moments ago was to make barack obama a one-term president, wasn't to fix the economy, it was to make barack obama a one-term president, obama took all of that, he won. there was a sense in washington, among some people, i guess, i would call them sort of naive people, that the republicans might have learned something from that and might come to the table. but i'm afraid that, chris, they've learned precisely the opposite, that they're just going to double down in their opposition and that's what we're seeing so far with the failure to have a resolution to these fiscal cliff negotiations. john boehner -- >> but mitch mcconnell did reach ute to the president. do you see that as posturing, we're doing our best, or do you think the republicans are serious and feeling pressure about making a deal? >> i don't think t
of those details right that people can buy into the show. barack obama is not watching the show because it's a brilliant portrayal of the c.i.a. it gets enough of the details what it feels like to be in those situations. i have no idea why i like the show -- the think it's less about details. michael described it as it's not a palemic and i think audiences smell propaganda but if you can introduce the complexity of what they do. "24" was not about a good choice and bad choice but the better of two bad choices. if there was a formula of "24" that would have been it. and i think these people saw and president obama sees as well there is something about the presentation of the complexity of some of the things that people who are charged with these jobs have to deal with. writing it and imagining it makes me glad it's not my job just imagining how tough some of these decisions must be makes you grateful. >> the verse that we show in frost nixon "the queen" and that is how much responsibility you take with that, especially when art itself is working in metaphors. when people ask me about there
? >> that is right. jasey told us to vote for barack obama. the irony is many young people look at social security and may know it is not going to be around for them in the future. they are not planning their lives and certainly not their retirement banking on social security solvency. the problem is you have the republican party who rrfuses to address letting younger workers invest their own money into their own retirement programs because they view it as a death knell of the voting booth. there is that problem. you are absolutely right. i don't view social security being around for me. how idiotic government bureaucrats are today, the social security administration claims theyyare running not a deficit of $47 billion that actually running a surplus of $65 billion because of all the ious from the treasury department. one government portion of government borrowing from another portion of government and claiming in the end don't worry, your concerns will be alleviated. stuart: we keep going back to why did young people votes overwhelmingly for this administration to have a second term? was it never
director invoed in an extramarital affair cannot b overplayayed. >> all right. as we look back, let's begin with the top political story of the year -- the reelection of barack obama. as "timeme"'s magazine cover story stage -- the president is the person of the year -- barack obama will be the first dememocrat in more e than 75 years to win a majority of the popular vote twice. mitt romney has to be asking himself, given the magnitude of the president's problems and the great numbers of americans who believe the country was headed in the wrong dirirection "how did i lose?" the republican national convention, a vermont couple took the stage to describe how mitt romney had helped their termally ill son help settle his affairs. people listening werere in tears but their story never made it to the country. instead, the voters saw this. >> what do y you want me t tell romney? i cannot tell him to do that. [laughter] >> that is just a symptom of what went wrong in the mitt romney campaign, and yet as we observed here week after week, the president was vulnerable and so manlevels. the economic re
at the media. "state ufrts of the union" begi right now. >> we are at the precipes of a very big thing. today the cliffhanger, president obama takes to the sunday air waves to make his case. we get response from olympia snow, bob corber, and congressman labrador. cutting through the clutter of the fiscal cliff and 2016, yes 2016, with a.b. stoddard of the hill, "the washington post," "time" magazine's michael crowley and jessica yellen. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." we still don't know if a deal is in the works or out of the question. mitch mcconnell promised aen update as soon as he had any news to make. that could happen when the senate convenes a rare sunday session of congress. looking to dominate his side of the story while leaders wrangle on the details, president obama made his first sunday show appearance in three years, sitting down with nbc's david gregory this morning to talk about the fiscal cliff. >> i'm arguing for maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left wing agenda. that used to be considered a re
that you are absolutely right. in terms of the strategy f they have one, they have not revealed the details about that quite yet. president obama today, and what i thought was interesting is using the power of the bully pulpit to put pressure on congress to get this basic deal done that he is calling for, and richard, one of the things that he said at the end of the remarks is that essentially this is not how the american people do business and just to remind you that ordinary folks meet their deadlines and sort out disagreements and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. the president really trying to ramp up public pressure, and this is something that we have seen him do in the past, a tactic that he has taken in the past to try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on the house republicans. richard? >> kristen welker, thank you so much for all of your work at the white house. joined by the grio's joy reid and chicago tribute's clarence page. let's talk about what kristen was just talking about, because i felt that the president was getting impati
, the data crunchers in the obama campaign. but all that showed, it wasn't just about demography, but it was about how the country really has changed and really is changing. and these changes that we've talked about are here right now. i mean, this amazing statistic is that mitt romney won the same percentage of the white vote as george herbert walker bush did in 1988 when he won 436 electoral votes. i mean, that's just stunning. and it's an example of how the country has changed. and it's not just a demographic change. there's a cultural change. and i think obama representeds a cultural shift in terms of how we think about politics, how we think about government, how we think about each other. >> there is a cultural shift, and jon meacham, i thought it was very telling what newt gingrich said about the republican party's challenges. he said they either wake up to the realities that are facing them. this election was much worse for them than they expected, or there will be young voters who will be obama democrats for the next 40 years. this could be a watershed election if the re
affair cannot be overplayed. >> all right, as we look back, let's begin with the top political story of the year -- the freight -- the reelection of barack obama. as "ti" magine plus a cover story states, barack obama will be the first democrat in more than 75 years to win a majority of the popular vote twice. mitt romney has to be asking himself, giving the magnitude of the president's problems and the great numbers of americans who believe the country was headed in the wrong direction, "how did i lose?" as the republican national convention, a vermont couple took the stage to describe how mitt romney helped their terminally ill son settle his fairs, but their story never meant it to tv. instead, the voters saw this. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i cannot tell him to do that. [laughter] >> that is a symptom of what went wrong in the campaign, and yet, as we observe here, we noted that the president was vulnerable at so many levels. the economic recovery moving at a snail's pace. there was great opposition to the affordable care act, obamacare, if you will. he bombed in the
this with an all-volunteer service. >> all right. final thoughts on the year 2012. >> after last night, i want a man who had the good sense to marry michelle obama. [applause] >> i am nominating former president bill clinton's democratic national convention speech in 2012 as the political speech of the year. anybody want to challenge me on that? >> i echo that. he galvanized that convention. he brought them to their feet. he galvanized the political party. they came out of there as a united party, and energize the party. >> and he has a huge approval rating. this was a man who was impeached. >> there is a second and third life in american politics, and bill clinton proves it. the two most popular political figures in the united states are bill clinton and hillary clinton. he made a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> i think you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment
? >> there seems to be a growing consensus or perception that, unlike past democratic president, president obama has not left a ideological format of what it means to be a democrat. there is -- there has been a fear that with the party going so big and republicans moving to the right, there could be a battle for the soul of the party in the next four or eight years. do you see a post-obama age -- a civil war-like occasion happening? >> we just pushed the post-obama age off by four years. [laughter] >> i know. even in the next four years? >> what this president stands for -- i talked earlier about the fight we had. i was reading a book some of you may have read that was excellent about clarence darrow. he talked about some of the fights in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. during the gilded age and the progressive era. so much of the dialogue -- there were differences, but the fundamental philosophical debate was very much the same way we had in this election. do we believe that the strength of our country and the economy comes from a broad number of people, the middle class, those working
cars, right? and we took old cars and smashed them. we -- and then barack obama also ignored, we also know that one of the common complaints was that george bush consistently put the motives of industry above the motives of the epa because he was big oil and big business, and, you know the rig rah ma role. barack obama did the exact same thing. the epa said we need to decrease smog levels because smog is killing people, and barack obama said, no, because it's not good for business. so he did exactly what he accused george bush of doing all throughout his campaign. on the issue of nuclear waste, i'm going to probably try to get through these next couple of slides here quickly because we've got some really juicy stories from the west coast that i have to get for you. barack obama is not relistically dealing with nuclear power. this has been a political football for years ever since the reagan administration. he didn't want the nuclear waste plant built out in the east, tom foley didn't want it built in the west, some texas congressman didn't want it in his state, so that's how nevada go
are right, there's a whole obama plan in one section of the area and there's another one that knows better and a larger district and that's where were obama stepgrandmother are not even blood relatives but she's the one that everybody goes to visit, everybody thinks that's where the obama served from. there's a whole another group of obama's but i will do more sensitive way than monty scenario in terms of what the story really comes from. it reminded me a little bit of the clinton book and what people thought because he said it. it is in clinton's convention acceptance, they ran a film, the man from hope. this little small town in southwestern arkansas, the simplicity of rural life and in fact he's from hot springs, a completely different place, much more cosmopolitan and complex with a darker side. the obama story is that people so far his coquette to want to sir and of the story of barack obama senior and his father takes place somewhere else and that's where the african section of this book will start. >> host: two final
and move on. >>> back to "hardball." the final weeks of president obama's first term are upon us. it's hard to remember the bizarre conspiracy theories. let eegs look back at some of the worst first. others on the right were up in arms over rumors about what the trip would cost. >> i think we know that just within a day or so, the president of the united states will be taking a trip over to india that is kmexpected to cos the taxpayers $200 million dlarsz a day. the american people are quite frankly struggling right now. >> for comparison, $200 million a day would have surpassed the war in afghanistan at the time. that nonfactual story about the cost of obama's trip was started by an unnamed source on an indian news web site. we can't talk about conspiracy theories without bringing up rush limbaugh. >> you've got a hurricane coming. the national hurricane center, with a government agency, very hopeful that the hurricane gets near tampa. obama is sending in fema in advance. in tampa, a bunch of rvs and stuff making it look like a disaster area before the hurricane even hits there. >> what ca
and that the house will somehow pass before he brings it to the table, is that right? >> i think senator reed and the white house are in close consultation. he's been a tremendous ally of president obama's in the senate, for better or worse. each side has its own view of that. right now i think you're likely to see senator reed move a version of the bill that's acceptable to president obama or attempt to. it's not clear whether mitch mcconnell or other senators in the republican party will allow that to move forward. if something passes in the senate, i think it's likely that the house will follow suit. i think that takes the pressure off john boehner a little bit in terms of bringing something to the floor that his minions don't love. >> take care, drew. >>> two firefighters shot and wounded on christmas eve are improving and starting physical therapy. joseph hoffstetter and the other firefighter were shot after being called to a fire. we are starting to hear the 911 calls. >> multiple firemen down. multiple firemen shot. i am shot. i think it was an assault rifle. >> volunteers from other a
into this summertime assault on romney? >> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now, on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor romney at that point was still trying to put together the pieces for his primary just ended. >> why didn't he respond? why didn't they refute the attacks about bain capitol? >> one of the issues was governor romney was just not willing to lend himself money as he was in 2008. there was a perception among his senior staff that he didn't want to be seen as buying the election. so in order for him to have gone toe-to-toe with obama at that point in time he would have had to use his own money and that wasn't even broached in the campaign. >> warner: one of the most fascinating t
republicans have tilted right and if romney beats obama, it will be because he's one independent voters who move from party to party, election to election. to me the best evidence the tea party movement is not here to stay, that at least entered the bloodstream is that the voting behavior of congressman. for example, the ryan budget, those in 2011 and 2012 when i came up for a vote, republicans who previously voted now go for it. the reason is that they failed to fail to vote for accountability primary by someone who will get to the right. one of the people i write about is a moderate republican in missouri and she voted against a couple of things, her voting behavior is not sufficiently raping i read eric's and who wrote something sane hate tea party, here's a bunch of primary. that behavior strikes into the heart of legislators. >> if governor romney loses, the response will be we told you so. >> ask him exactly. and that the moderates are ready. >> what do you see coming down the line considering the judicial appointment crisis? >> i assumed the idea that there's a lot of unfilled vacanc
assault on romney? >> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor romney at that point was still trying to put together the pieces for his primary just ended. >> why didn't he respond? why didn't they refute the attacks about bain capitol? >> one of the issues was governor romney was just not willing to lend himself money as he was in 2008. there was a perception among his senior staff that he didn't want to be seen as buying the election. so in order for him to have gone toe-to-toe with obama at that point in time he would have had to use his own money and that wasn't even broached in the campaign. >> warner: one of the most fascinating things i saw here w
-enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: to win a second term, president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, a struggling economy, and voters' doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. [ chanting ] >> all: four more years! >> reporter: and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the frontrunner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> the odds are very high i'm going to be the nominee. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. >> i like being able to fire people who provide services to me. >> reporter: after nearly 50 primary contests, romney finally clenched the nomination and it was on to the general election. >> it will be a choice between -- >> two very different paths. >> reporter: their battle focused on the economy. the overwhelming top issue to voters. >> we can't afford another four years like the last four years. >> we need more tax cuts for working americans. >> reporter: e
, a billion citizens united is a disaster, and i talked to jim messina, who was so instrumental in the obama re-election organization. he feels as though -- i hope i am not speaking out of school to say this -- he feels we need a constitutional amendment to protect voters rights and to also protect our collections from the pollution of this amazing amount of money. i agree with bonnie. i do not know if it is an option, but the money is a distraction. it does not to give us good information about who these people are. now, noam chomsky says that the size of a piece of information is to make it as short as it is today is an effective way of censoring, is a censorship to shorten our pieces of information, because it gives us the opportunity to say something that people already know. but the amount of time that it takes to contradict a sort of known perceived consensus of reality and perceived wisdom to disassembled that in to build into someone's mind in an argument an alternative way of seeing things, it just takes much too long for the way we communicate today. i do not know what to do about
specific. i think you get enough of those details right that people can buy into the show. barack obama is not watching the show because it's a brilliant portrayal of the c.i.a. it gets enough of the details what it feels like to be in those situations. i have no idea why i like the show -- >> i think it's less about the details. michael described it as it's not a palemic and i think audiences smell propaganda but if you can introduce the complexity of what they do. "24" was not about a good choice and bad choice but the better of two bad choices. if there was a formula of "24" that would have been it. and i think these people saw and president obama sees as well there is something about the presentation of the complexity of some of the things that people who are charged with these jobs have to deal with. writing it and imagining it makes me glad it's not my job just imagining how tough some of these decisions must be makes you grateful. >> the verse that we show in frost nixon "the queen" and that is how much responsibility you take with that, especially when art itself is working in m
to appeal of obama care and it's up to us to hold our nominee's feet to the fire. >> so here's competition. let me put my own doctor hat. if i was prescribing some medicine for you right now, congressman, i would tay tsai the situation is looking pretty terminal for your race to be the gop nominee. why don't you do the decent thing and pull out? why are you staying in the race? >> why don't you do the decent thing and not pest are me with silly questions like that? i mean that, would be decent of you. >> it wasn't that silly. hang on. the latest gallup poll has you at 9%. >> wait, wait, wait, what you're looking for at delegates and we're doing quite yet. >> let's see how you're doing. mitt military 568 delegates, ron paul 71. >> yeah, okay. what about the states where they're still working through the process, which is most of them, you know, whether, you know, whether it's up in maine. right now we're doing very well in the state of washington. north dakota. excellent, now in nevada. and our people are in the right places and doing the things to become a delegate. it's way too soon to wr
are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. >> right. >> not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> what happened was the supreme court helping this along. t you had the justices essentially rewrite legislation. changing the tax congress passed to declare obama care constitutional which is a littleec scary that the highest justice is -- justices in the land would take the activist roll. that's what is scary. the backdrop of the presidential year was europe. we know where this path leads. all this turmoil, the huge welfare and the low productivity and high unemployment that comes along with them, that was the backdrop of the presidential campaign. voters voted, and they said, yes, we are going to keep moving in that direction, kim. where do you think the electorat is here? is it be ibd hue the choices that -- is it behind the choices that jason suggested they might be? >> barack obamaus won this election by very effectively making this a referendum about his opponent, mitt romney. if you went out and asked most americans, do you think barack obama did a
democratic president, president obama has not left a ideological format of what it means to be a democrat. there is -- there has been a fear that with the party going so big and republicans moving to the right, there could be a battle for the soul of the party in the next four or eight years. do you see a post-obama age -- a civil war-like occasion happening? >> we just pushed the post-obama age off by four years. [laughter] >> i know. even in the next four years? >> what this president stands for -- i talked earlier about the fight we had. i was reading a book some of you may have read that was excellent about clarence darrow. he talked about some of the fights in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. during t gilded age and the progressive era. so much of the dialogue -- there were diffences, but the fundamental philosophical debate was very much the same way we had in this election. do we believe that the strength of our country and the economy comes from a broad number of people, the middle class, those working to get into the middle class, or do we believe it comes from the wealth-
connell and vice president joe biden. that's where all of the action is right now. keeping the speaker of the house john boehner abreast of what's going on. keeping harry reid abreast of what's going on and keeping president obama abreast of what's going on. we heard from senator reid yesterday that they are very far apart. not just talking on the threshold, initially president obama said $250 mi,000. there is talk to bumping that to $400,000. republicans want to know how we pay for it. there are farm subsidies, the doc fix. and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be resolved here in the next few hours. >> too bad we only found out about this, you know, yesterday or the day before. 517 days they've had to work out the details and now we're talking about them all. brianna, we'll be busy today and may be ringing in the new year together. brianna keilar in washington. >>> a ball dropping in washington, a ball dropping in times square it looks like we'll go off the fiscal cliff. here's what it means to you. your paycheck will shrink. the payroll tax holiday is likely going away, for someone making $50,
madison. the superiority of a right to declare laws unconstitutional has been unchallenged since that point out think you that decisions can change that. the mac do you think if obama is reelected that ruth bader ginsburg will set down? are there any other justices you think might consider withdrawing from the supreme court? >> the answer is the resignation decisions are very political in the sense that justices decide to leave when a president to the lake in in a position to appoint them. this ginsburg is a great fan of president obama and i do think she will be publicly and obama's third year. she's 79 years old. she's often fishiness is served until 82 because that's the way brandeis, or i ago served until. that's not funny. that's true. and some people ask, why did she quit earlier to make sure obama has a seat? you know what, she's a human being and she's a widow and she loves what she does and she's good at it and she's got to bring some hope to do it. she's particularly enamored of her new colleague, elana kagan and her choices to be senior liberal the supreme court is is
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